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Why does hydroracer always delete the threads I enjoy reading? Some crybaby made a statement about the tohatsu vote that didn't go his way,and now its gone! Did he decide to go out to the garage and build a REAL mod motor or did he get scared of peoples response?PLEASE QUIT DELETING THINGS AND LET US SEE WHAT KIND OF IDIOTS WE REALLY HAVE TO DEAL WITH ON THE WEEKENDS WHEN THEY CANT HIDE BEHIND A KEYBOARD!
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Unless things have changed only the person who started the thread can delete it. I am guessing Dave woke up and realized what he wrote was not in the best interest of our sport n Joe -
Mcbain we do not delete threads unless they are porn or political and other things like that.. If a person starts a thread they can delete the first post and it all goes away.. They did not like the out come and got rid of it.. It was that persons choice..Mike - One of the Montana Boys
If it aint fast make it look good
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[QUOTE= porn or political and other things like that.. ..[/QUOTE]
Is this an insult to politics or porn to be put on the same level? This made me laugh this morning. Thank you Blueskyracer!
On the issue. They can still race MOD... 850hydro and runabout. The mod category welcomes all Tohatsu owners. When you go to someones house to eat you don't get to pick the meal or your seat at the table. When you go to a party you should bring a gift! Your entry and good clean racing fun is all that is needed.Comment
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I deleted the post....I wanted to take the time to compose my thoughts and bring a more resonible response to the vote. Remember....APBA is dying. The mod racers do not live or race in a vacuum. Whether you like it or not, we are all tied in together. There is no way in hell a decent merc 44 cube should not beat a top notch Tohatsu. The people that voted against the proposal are doing a hell of a lot of harm to a lot of clubs and racers. There is no point in going into details. Just keep watching both the APBA, D stock, and D mod numbers continue to plummet. Good job people....Comment
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was Dave wrong in what he posted? Maybe yes, maybe no. Are the Tohatsu owners whiners, HELL NO they are not, they just want to race like the rest of us in multiple classes to justify the expense. Is this vote detrimental to racing, maybe yes, maybe no. It won't affect those Regions/Clubs were 750ccmh is a huge class, but it will in regions that are trying to revive the class and add more entrys to the clubs, which bring in more $$$............is there a problem with that? What I find a little odd is that the "diehard" 44mod racers don't mind allowing the Tohatsu owners to race in the class as a PROTOTYPE (which receive no points or allowed to race at championship events), but when those Tohatsu guys want to receive points and race at Championship events (of which they still pay the same entry fees as everyone else), the class members are dead set against it...........ODD!!! I will tell EVERYONE right now (and am not patting myself on the back), but I have one of the fastest Tohatsu DSH rigs in the country and have tested all off-season at 1/2" (stock height) and with no height restriction and am still 5mph slower than my "average" 44mod rig (which I spent all yesterday testing both rigs I own (a Tohatsu DSH rig and a 44mod rig)), so unless some can put a Tohatsu DSH rig that can run 85MPH in competition, there is no threat to the 44mod drivers. If you guys/gals don't want a STOCK motor in the class, then SAY IT!! If so, I will propose next year that the 750 class only allow motors with some type of "open exhaust", which in actuality will remove the 44XS DSH motor from the class also. Heck, while we are at it, why not remove ALL STOCK motors from the Mod Division?? Anyways, I have no ill feeling towards anyone that voted against the ballot item, just hope to see you all out for the 2014 MOD Nationals in Moses Lake and buy you a beer or 2............and will see who the dedicated 750 racers are.....
PS: ATTN all Tohatsu racers, this is not the end of the world, you can still race your rigs in 750ccmh, just as you have before.............unless you only race for points.......
anyone want to flame me OR call ME a whiner, fell free to do so (but will not argue with people behind a keyboard)................you wanna call and ***** at me even more.......my number is 360-540-2037.......or see ya in Moses Lake in August.....Daren
DSH/750ccmh/850ccmh
Team Darneille
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Someone repost what was said, this looks like good reading !Dave Mason
Just A Boat Racer
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Someone repost what was said, this looks like good reading !Dave Mason
Just A Boat Racer
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I'm just guessing here. I can think of a few possible reasons many drivers voted the Tohatsu out of D mod. 1. It's "Jap-crap". (Despite the fact that everything below the powerhead is 100% American made) 2. They're worried that they'll be humiliated by getting their clock cleaned by a stock motor. 3. A concern that once the Tohatsu drivers are bonafide D Mod drivers, they'll be able to vote for changes to the class. (Like modifications allowable to the Tohatsu, to make it a real screamer)
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Jeff, without a doubt that engine with a little tweaking can be as fast as a Super E. You might be onto something with your guess...Originally posted by jeff55v View Post
Dave Mason
Just A Boat Racer
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I liked the part in the orignial post calling us 44 mod guys and gals "REBELS"
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Here is a couple REBEL yells for ya!
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In reply to daveraceredsh's quote in post #6 on this thread:
"APBA IS DYING"
As a member from 1968 to the early 2000's, I would certainly agree with your statement. Where you are mistaken is the reason why. If you think something minor such as whether a motor is approved in one category would place an entire organization at risk for obsolescence and irrelevance, you are sorely mistaken. It took a long time to get where you are now and no easy quick fix is going to "right the ship" easily.
There are many other problems, both of APBA's and its leaderships own making, and other influences that need work and solving, or you are absolutely right, and possibly the boat racing community would be better off. There are downsides to thinking just because you are the oldest, were once the biggest, and have costs that tend to keep the average middle class would be racer on the sidelines, that there is an easy way out.
I do not claim to have all, or even some of the answers, but you might look at leadership first. That is where a "member driven" organization will rise or fall, depending on who is willing to run for offices and then do the right thing by recognizing problems that NOW exist and doing something about them.
It all comes back to the membership and the folks they put in place to do the jobs. If they only vote 20-30 percent of the time, you will get exactly the type leadership you deserve.Comment
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This is actually in the greater scheme of things a minor issue to most people. I of course, like Darren, hold no ill will towards those people that voted against the Tohatsu in D mod. Like Darren mentioned in his post above, we have both been working very hard in region 10 to revive both the D mod and D stock class....and this vote is going to make i just that much harder to obtain that goal. I also feel that I have one of the fasted Tohatsu d rigs in the country, and I get waxed by the majority of the decent D mod rigs out here...I just find it strange that the drivers, who remember allowed the 44XS into D mod, did not do the same for the replacement motor in D. Not to throw stones here, but I find that more then a little two faced. I am just becoming increasingly frustrated with the trailer box mentality that so many racers show....remember, I was on the commission when the Tohatsu was approved, and could have voted against any restrictions on motor, making the 44XS instantly obsolete. I did not do that..I was looking out for the greater good of racing. Like Mr Van Steenwyk, I do not pretend to have all or even some of the answers....but I do know that we need to start supporting each other across catagories if we are going survive. Just some food for thought. See you all at Moses Lake.Comment
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