APBA BOD proposal to gut members' rights

[jeff55v]

So where is all the outrage over this-APBA took away your helmet cams and you would of thought the world came to an end-APBA wants to take away your rights as members but only 600 veiws and a few post-seems we now know whats wrong-or maybe just a small minority get on here and gripe.

Kerry

Precisely! I learned from the helmet cam thing that I have no rights anyway.
And I'm not griping about this issue, It doesn't affect me much because I never go to the national meetings. I think maybe it would be a good thing. In fact, I support it!

[bill van steenwyk]

So where is all the outrage over this-APBA took away your helmet cams and you would of thought the world came to an end-APBA wants to take away your rights as members but only 600 veiws and a few post-seems we now know whats wrong-or maybe just a small minority get on here and gripe.

Kerry

Kerry:

On this issue brought up by Chairman Eddie, it would seem that at least the membership has a vote so as to indicate their wishes.

The main problem with the camera issue, was the decision was made FOR the membership, with very little or no input from same, as that rule was mandated with no vote by same, and no advance notice unless you were on the inside or attended the meeting. As many have noted over the years, it is very difficult for the average member to take the time off from work and spend the money required for the trip.

One of the posts about the camera issue made some very good points about the value of the internet and discussions of the issues at the meeting that are now not available to the membership until the issues are a done deal and decisions have already been made, and then they are forced to live with it whether they agree or not.

If past performance is any indication, I would not hold my breath though that a vote will make much difference, as only about 2O-25 percent of the membership even bother to vote when presented with a ballot, not only for issues like this, but for the folks that have the greatest input into the rules the membership operates under, whether safety related or not. BOD, Commission, and Committee members are very aware of this and make sure that the membership they are personally acquainted with gets the message as to how to vote so as to help assure passage of their favorite issues.

Democracy in Action!!

That is the way it has been for as long as I can remember with APBA, and I don't see it changing anytime soon. At least the Club (USTS) and the type racing I have interest in has taken the future into their own hands, with capable leadership for that future. It may very well lead to others doing the same, if they see the benefit. You only beat your head against a wall for so long before you realize the futility of that action.

[Dr. Thunder]

First question should be ...

Next Wednesday, April 24th, the APBA Board of Directors will have a conference call to consider a proposal...<snip>.

Who drafted the "proposal"? Perhaps Ed might know who the right person would be to contact to have answer a few questions.

[Racerkyle20]

Maybe all kneel downs need to leave apba and follow the pro's. What does ABBA really do for us that we can't do better? We kneel down membership pay for most of the insurance so the unlimited's and tunnels can run people over and we then get to pay higher race fees for that?

FYI unlimited s carry their own different insurance. And outboard insurance premiums are 2400$ for a weekend race. Inboards pay $4400. Just so facts are straight for everyon3 on that.

[racerv24]

Ok , how many stock,mod and pro races are there in a year vs inboard.
The kneelers are still paying way more then there share of insurance fees.
If you let the BOD have there way, they might not have any members

[Dave M]

Because

So where is all the outrage over this-APBA took away your helmet cams and you would of thought the world came to an end-APBA wants to take away your rights as members but only 600 veiws and a few post-seems we now know whats wrong-or maybe just a small minority get on here and gripe.

Kerry

Kerry,

How is this different from the perception already in place ? Really ? Why bother anymore. Not much surprises me anymore. Let it regulate itself until the cows come home.

[daveracerdsh]

bod

This issue is far far more serious then banning helmet cams.....if passed it would essentialy gut membership rights. I don't think there is a rats azz in hell that it will pass.....

[csh2z]

My voice sent today to the BoD:

To APBA Board members,

This is exactly the kind of arrogant leadership that has caused hundreds of members to leave APBA and/or boat racing altogether. Most recently the Pro Title Series is a perfect example. There are other boat racing organizations out there that can't wait to scoop up our disgruntled members and give them a venue to participate in. It is difficult enough to stand behind the APBA flag and fly it proudly as it is. My family alone has accumulated nearly two hundred and fifty YEARS OF MEMBERSHIP IN APBA, and now you're telling us that our voice doesn't count! This is a bad move and I highly recommend, for the good of the sport, this proposal not even be brought to the floor for discussion.

Irately yours, John Runne
member # 1863

[bill hoctor]

Wrong move apba !!

Good post john !!!!!

[bill boyes]

President Wheeler issued an E -mail a few minutes ago and stated the membership is heard and the By-Law change has been removed from the BOD meeting agenda. Drama has ended!!!

[pearson95m]

Where is the "like" button? Thanks Ed for bringing this to our attention.

[dwilderacer]

my 2 cents

ED- you are just pissed off because... you cannot vote in a national champion on the last day of the national meeting

[csh2z]

Classy, Dan.

[ryan_4z]

My voice sent today to the BoD:

To APBA Board members,

This is exactly the kind of arrogant leadership that has caused hundreds of members to leave APBA and/or boat racing altogether. Most recently the Pro Title Series is a perfect example. There are other boat racing organizations out there that can't wait to scoop up our disgruntled members and give them a venue to participate in. It is difficult enough to stand behind the APBA flag and fly it proudly as it is. My family alone has accumulated nearly two hundred and fifty YEARS OF MEMBERSHIP IN APBA, and now you're telling us that our voice doesn't count! This is a bad move and I highly recommend, for the good of the sport, this proposal not even be brought to the floor for discussion.

Irately yours, John Runne
member # 1863

Word.

[MGallagher]

Dan, you dropped your 2 cents in a pile of #%@!.

Ed, nice work counsel.

John, nicely done