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    Subject: Propeller issues and APBA financial status

    Additional questions and support of Mr. Giles comments:

    Dear APBA Board Of Directors and Officers,
    As Board members and Officers of a non-profit corporation, I’m sure you each appreciate the responsibilities of acting in the best interest of the corporation you represent: i.e. the fiduciary duties involved are quite serious and I’m sure you all do your homework in regard to each issue the corporation undertakes and all actions for which you all are ultimately responsible and for which you each are accountable to the membership at large. I would like to suggest that you give serious consideration to the following:
    As a long time member, boat owner, driver, volunteer, and official I not only support Mr. Giles inquiry (about the propeller magazine) and comments but ask you to review items that concern not only me but many APBA members that I have spoken with over the past year.
    It is time to be upfront on where the APBA funds have been spent over the past 10 years, we find it very strange that a once solvent racing association is now on the verge of financial failure.
    It is no secret that sanctions and races are down over the past years, and clubs across the country are struggling to find revenues to fund event’s that have been very successful prior to current cost increases, that have put a major strain on local clubs to keep these races viable.
    Our current efforts to increase membership using the social media process, appears to have only provided an avenue for non -racers to make comments and post things from personal agendas and favorite recipes.
    If we are going to reach MOTOR HEADS, we should have spent marketing $$ in popular mechanics and medias where MOTOR HEADS read and visit.
    CURENTLY IT APPEARS MEMBERSHIP IS DOWN 12% AGAIN YTD 2012!! Looks like the social media venture is a great success!

    Allow me to ask some pointed question’s and ask you to not only respond but act on these requests:
    1. Please be up front and let the members of APBA know exactly how much money the NEW social media package will cost!
    2. Please provide the members of APBA the actual money lost in the spec boat program.
    3. Please advise the members the cost of the 120 OPC boat bought for the driving school that was destroyed due to unqualified person being allowed to drive a boat that was beyond the “safe” line for a new inexperienced driver.
    4. Please explain to the members why it was so important and benefits to APBA realized from allowing Unlimited (H1) back into APBA, as this has proven to have added increased cost to every Club, Boat Owner,and Racer to cover increased cost due to the H1 group’s inability to make sure proper policies were followed to protect APBA from additional losses due to law suits and what the amount APBA paid to resolve this issue.
    5. Please provide the financials and beneficiary’s for the insurance deal that was awarded under past leadership and continues today.
    6. Please provide an actual accounting and ROI for the “take a ride“ program that cost the APBA an initial investment of $100,000.00 plus!
    These are just a few of the items that have drained the APBA funds and put the organization in the current financial position.
    I challenge you to allow an independent audit of the books for the past 10 years of the APBA and provide the results to the membership.

    Safety issue stock nationals 2012:
    We are all now paying increased insurance cost due to an issue of an APBA group not following required process for liability release for an event that had a accident occur.
    The 2012 stock nationals just concluded and I am appalled to learn that the race committee, allowed a recently approved safety rule to be ignored and a competitor to race with a known boat that had a safety issue based on current safety rule for pickle forks on hydro’s.
    Not only did the Race Committee look the other way but the stock commission met and also agreed to over look a safety rule and allow the boat to be deemed legal.
    It appears that APBA safety rules are being ignored by APBA officials. I guess we are not paying enough insurance cost so ignoring safety rules is no big deal under the current leadership.


    Here is the basic questions everyone should be provided for the past 10 years:
    1. Membership trends by year
    2. # of sanction by year
    3. Total income by year
    4. Total expenses by year
    This would make a great article for the next propeller magazine! Much more meaning full than cooking recipes.

    Let’s not continue to rearrange the deck chairs while the ship is sinking. As Board Members it is time to ask the tough questions and do the right thing and be up front and honest with members that pay every weekend for the privilege of participating in the sport of boat racing in APBA( and provide the real reasons why the association is in the current financial straits) by holding current and previous administrations accountable for these exorbitant expectation that have proved to be so disastrous to APBA’s financial well being.

    APBA member #1487 R10
    Howard Shaw.




    Subject: Propeller
    APBA HQ- ,
    What has happened to my boat racing Propeller? Where is Tana Moore? I am most disappointed in the last issue of the APBA Propeller. Since APBA has gone to electronics, I have not been able to "see" it on the computer. IT is impossible to open. I have much greater success using HydroRacer to stay informed. Tell me again, what am I getting for a $200 membership? This last issue was very difficult to read the Memoriam page. We lost two great people and the "style" of printing was not conducive to reading. Roasting chicken is not a high priority of mine either, especially in MY racing magazine. Ladies Home Journal can provide that for me~! Why are there not heading as to who the people are in the pictures. Nice pictures of the patriotic boats but no identity. Do you have a person that id knowledgeable about writing a story on the current staff? Again, where is Tana~!
    If this is what is to become of my racing organization, it will die- shortly. The Region news was only 3 Regions contributing. We used to have 7-9 Region news letters in here. I heard the "person" in change has limited printing. That person should be fired...As a member.\, I want to know what my National Organization is doing. I do not care to know about Detroit either. We have many races that have been around many years as well as Detroit. Where is the list of race dates? They are mostly one month listing here. Why are not more dates listed? These times, teams need to be able to plan ahead on which ones they can afford to attend. No help here!
    APBA MUST get back to basics- take care of those it has - then build a membership. It needs to print Rule Books ( or throw away the rules) , print a monthly magazine to inform ALL members, and stay with our sport - Power Boat Racing. The next thing I'll see is stories about the America's Cup racing I guess! I have had "several" past members as well as current racers ask me about what is going on here. I have no good answer - do you? Older, non-racers are ready to flee the course! I suggest the BOD look at what they are doing and the results thereof!
    Regards,
    Bill Giles
    Honor Squadron
    3-B

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    Howard and Bill I like it but you are making waves and distrupting the staus quoe.. I would like to do some more racing but untill things get better we will just watch from the sidelines..

    You probably wont get many comments for fear of being called a trouble maker but your points are very true..I guess we will all wait and see who the last group standing is..At the current rate that should not be to long..
    Mike - One of the Montana Boys

    If it aint fast make it look good



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    • #3
      Howard & Bill, Thank you both for stepping up and bringing this issue to the forefront. There has been much discussion around the pits about the way APBA has been operating the past few years. Many people, myself included, believe we should be operating more like a profit making business. Our financial investments recently have been great (huge) but the results have been very poor.
      John Runne
      2-Z

      Stock Outboard is all about a level playing field.

      True parity is one motor per class.

      It's RACING, not just another boat ride!

      NOT a representative of Racing Outboards LLC.

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      • #4
        Below is a recent post from the APBA Facebook Page:

        American Power Boat Association
        August 17
        What do your racing plans consist of this weekend? Did you make any cool stops along the way?
        Like · · Share

        Josh Dabrasky likes this.


        I left a comment under this post asking if the admin of the page was a third grader also stating that this type of post was extremely embarrassing giving the fact that the APBA is the largest and oldest powerboat sanctioning body in the US and this was the best content they could come up with.

        Of course my comment was deleted quickly.

        Currently they have a post up asking people to send in pranks or practical jokes that you have pulled or have been pulled on you. Send your stories to Propeller@apba-racing.com

        How embarrassing for the oldest and largest powerboat sanctioning body in the US, asking people to send in jokes.

        For Gods sake hire a professional freelance journalist to produce real adult level reading content.
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        • #5
          I have talked to Bill a couple of times this year and made some opinions about what I have seen over the years. But about Propeller, to print a magazine you need more then 4 company's advertizing. Thats not going to pay for much.( was in the industry so know what i am talking about ) SRP/Brown/Dewald/Necksgen are the one's I see.
          If it wasnt for Hydroracer/FaceBook most racers have NO idea whats even going on in racing these days other then word of mouth. You would think that this or last months Propeller would have even acknowledged that Billy Allen was going to the Worlds to represent our country in OSY. Good thing we have Rachel Warnock ( I am Guessing they will make it up in SEPT issue seeing he was on the podium ).

          Region round ups? Bill is more then correct

          High Points list? Guess thats only on the APBA web site for now on. ( the older generation thats not computer savy would also like to know who is running well in there classes )
          sigpicWayne DiGiacomo

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          • #6
            NBRA...."Grass roots racing with you in mind"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by blueskyracer View Post
              Howard and Bill I like it but you are making waves and distrupting the staus quoe.. I would like to do some more racing but untill things get better we will just watch from the sidelines..

              You probably wont get many comments for fear of being called a trouble maker but your points are very true..I guess we will all wait and see who the last group standing is..At the current rate that should not be to long..
              You are probably correct and there are many of others like yourself waiting what we all really need to do is get on the social media site and flood the leaders with demands for answers and then vote in a new group starting with the current ballot that is out for Board of Directors.
              Here are 3 names I would ask you and any of your contacts to vote as WRITE INS:

              Howard Shaw
              Rick Sandstrom
              Mike Jones
              There is room for 1 more if you have a good canidate that cares about the big picture not just the choosen few!

              Vote for no others on the list it is time all of us concerned racers unite and clean house!!!

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              • #8
                Apba

                APBA has always been about big money, the Unlimiteds and the off shore racers. The grass roots drivers in stock, mod and pro are the backbone of the orginization, but are tolerated just for the membership dues. We have very little representation and almost no input in what is going on. I agree with Howard and Bill and would like to see where our money is going to help our sport grow.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by hshawwpba View Post
                  Subject: Propeller issues and APBA financial status

                  Additional questions and support of Mr. Giles comments:

                  Dear APBA Board Of Directors and Officers,*****It is time to be upfront on where the APBA funds have been spent over the past 10 years, we find it very strange that a once solvent racing association is now on the verge of financial failure.
                  ***3-B
                  Howard: This is totally out of line. The subject of APBA's financials is gone over EVERY year at the APBA Annual Meeting. To suggest that anyone at APBA in the recent past has not been up-front about where the money goes and how it is spent is totally disengeuous and you know this, having attended many APBA Annual Meetings yourself. A budget is produced and distributed to APBA member at each Annual Meeting and has been so every year since the APBA corporate dispute began nearly a decade ago.

                  If you don't like the direction of the Organization, that is fair. Some don't agree with the recent changes the BOD have made. The overwhelming majority of members do, however. But to suggest to others that there has been some "hide-the-ball" going on with regard to the APBA financials is just plain false and you know it!
                  14-H

                  "That is NOT why people hate me." - 14-H.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by hshawwpba View Post
                    ***Here are 3 names I would ask you and any of your contacts to vote as WRITE INS:

                    ****
                    Mike Jones
                    ***!!
                    Howard: In case you have forgotten, there were no budgets given to the APBA members and the Association was being administered by a Judge in Buffalo, New York, the last time Mr. Jones was President.

                    (Sorry to pour salt on old wounds, but it appears that you don't know what the hell you are talking about).
                    14-H

                    "That is NOT why people hate me." - 14-H.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Rex Hall View Post
                      APBA has always been about big money, the Unlimiteds and the off shore racers. The grass roots drivers in stock, mod and pro are the backbone of the orginization, but are tolerated just for the membership dues. We have very little representation and almost no input in what is going on. ***.
                      Rex: A Modified Outboarder is the current APBA President!
                      14-H

                      "That is NOT why people hate me." - 14-H.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 14-H View Post
                        Howard: This is totally out of line. The subject of APBA's financials is gone over EVERY year at the APBA Annual Meeting. To suggest that anyone at APBA in the recent past has not been up-front about where the money goes and how it is spent is totally disengeuous and you know this, having attended many APBA Annual Meetings yourself. A budget is produced and distributed to APBA member at each Annual Meeting and has been so every year since the APBA corporate dispute began nearly a decade ago.

                        If you don't like the direction of the Organization, that is fair. Some don't agree with the recent changes the BOD have made. The overwhelming majority of members do, however. But to suggest to others that there has been some "hide-the-ball" going on with regard to the APBA financials is just plain false and you know it!
                        REALLY YOUR 100% TRUSTING THE BUDGET PROVIDED REALLY---- As my father said don't believe everything you read.
                        If they are so upfront than why won't they allow an independant AUDIT of the books so your pie in the sky beliefs can be supported with fact not doctored up fiancial reports.
                        PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THE LEADERSHIP GROUP THE LAST 8 YEARS AS TAKEN APBA FROM A 1 MIILION $ OF ASSESTS TO WHERE APBA IS TODAY ON THE VERGE OF BANKRUPCY!!
                        Last edited by hshawwpba; 08-23-2012, 08:34 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 14-H View Post
                          Rex: A Modified Outboarder is the current APBA President!
                          We have an African American as President are blacks any better off? I fail to see the correlation.
                          Last edited by HRTV; 08-23-2012, 08:38 AM.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rex hall View Post
                            apba has always been about big money, the unlimiteds and the off shore racers. The grass roots drivers in stock, mod and pro are the backbone of the orginization, but are tolerated just for the membership dues. We have very little representation and almost no input in what is going on. I agree with howard and bill and would like to see where our money is going to help our sport grow.
                            right on rex, at least your not drinking the coolaid like others !!!!

                            R10, #1487

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by hshawwpba View Post
                              REALLY YOUR 100% TRUSTING THE BUDGET PROVIDED REALLY---- As my father said don't believe everything you read.
                              If they are so upfront than why won't they allow an independant AUDIT of the books so your pie in the sky beliefs can be supported with fact not doctored up fiancial reports.
                              PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THE LEADERSHIP GROUP THE LAST 8 YEARS AS TAKEN APBA FROM A 1 MIILION $ OF ASSESTS TO WHERE APBA IS TODAY ON THE VERGE OF BANKRUPCY!!
                              Howard: No I don't. As you also know from your attendance at these meetings, I nearly always ask questions about the budget.

                              If you are concerned about seeing these things, why don't you make a request to view the records yourself and go to APBA and inspect all of the records? As an APBA member, you have a right to do that (and I assume that you know this since you are apparently a write-in candidate for the BOD).

                              Since you obviously haven't done this, are you just making this stuff up?

                              (BTW: I am not in anyway defending the APBA BOD- just pointing out that Howard doesn't know what he's talking about).
                              Last edited by 14-H; 08-23-2012, 08:49 AM.
                              14-H

                              "That is NOT why people hate me." - 14-H.

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