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  • Catalytic converter theft

    Almost all of us have a SUV, Pick up or Camper we use as tow vehicles. This is an article that I attached to an email to my entire company. On Friday, we had 15 vehicles hit in our parking lot at our office building in broad daylight. Later Friday night, the thief's came back and hit a Hummer dealership down the street.

    Hope everybodies vehicles are safe and sound.

    This article was taking from the Government Fleet Website that explains a little on the how and why these thefts occur. For more info, just put in catalytic converter theft in a search engine as there were many articles available on the web.

    Fleets Vulnerable to the Latest Crime Trend:
    Catalytic Converter Theft



    Thieves are targeting fleet vehicles parked overnight in secluded parking lots. Their target? Catalytic converters. The theft of catalytic converters is a growing crime trend happening throughout the country. For instance, on May 30, Comcast discovered seven catalytic converters stolen from work trucks parked outside its office in Gambrills, Md. This wasn’t the first time. Earlier, on July 18, the same Comcast location reported the theft of 18 catalytic converters. On May 28, Adscom reported 16 catalytic converters stolen from new Chevrolet and GMC cargo vans parked behind its building in Glen Burnie, Md. These crimes are not restricted to just large fleets. Smaller fleets are just as vulnerable. Dreisbach Florists in Cincinnati reported to the police that catalytic converters were sawed off three of its vans. Nor is this a problem restricted to the U.S. The BBC reports an increase in catalytic converter thefts in the U.K.

    Precious Metals Inside
    Police first began noticing catalytic converter thefts about eight months ago. Thieves aren't interested in the catalytic converters themselves; they're interested in the precious metals inside, which are easily recycled. The average catalytic converter contains one to two grams of three precious metals - platinum, palladium, and rhodium. That equals about 0.07 of an ounce, meaning 14 or 15 converters are needed to equal one ounce of the metals. However, the commodity rates for these metals have skyrocketed in the past two years. For criminals, catalytic converters are as good as gold. Actually, better. In comparison, gold prices reached $670 per ounce in June 2007. According to online commodities Web site www.kitco.com, the price of rhodium has shot up in the past five years from $900 to almost $6,000 per ounce in June. Palladium rose from about $189 per ounce two years ago to a high of $371 in June. Between June 1, 2005 and June 1, 2007, the price of platinum rose 67 percent, from $870 per ounce to $1,295. A quick perusal of the Internet reveals that hundreds of recyclers across the country are buying catalytic converters for the precious metals. Catalytic converters need to be sent to a recycler that has the equipment to perform the chemical process necessary to extract the metals. Metal recycling companies will pay anywhere from $25 to $150 apiece for catalytic converters. A search of the Web reveals a wide range of catalytic converter buying and selling activity across the United States and overseas. There are Web sites that describe how to collect and sell catalytic converters to the right buyer. One site includes photos of the tools to use, such as electric saws, hydraulic jacks, and portable generators.

    High Clearance Vehicles at Greater Risk
    The catalytic converters are usually stolen from high-clearance vehicles. Most thefts occur at night. A thief can slip under a vehicle and, with a battery-operated saw and metal-cutting blade, make two quick cuts and remove the catalytic converter. Some vehicles have catalytic converters that are bolted on, which are the easiest to remove. The theft can take as little as five to 10 minutes. With some models, thieves use a reciprocal saw to cut the catalytic converter from the exhaust systems underneath the vehicle. Other models require thieves to use an acetylene torch to remove the catalytic converter. Recovering stolen catalytic converters is virtually impossible since they are not inscribed with serial numbers that can be used to identify them. Often, catalytic converter theft is by drug addicts. Many of those arrested for stealing catalytic converters are heroin addicts. It’s a quick crime for a drug addict to get cash. There are also more sophisticated thieves who know exactly what they were doing and already have buyers lined up for the stolen catalytic converters. Many are shipped to recycling companies in Poland, Canada, China, and Latvia, where they undergo a carbochlorination process that extracts the precious metals.

    Securing Vehicles After Work Hours
    Fleets victimized by this crime must spend anywhere from $600 to $1,400 to install a replacement catalytic converter. The theft results in immediate downtime for the vehicle since it is illegal to drive without a catalytic converter. It is also extremely dangerous, since the hot exhaust blowing from sawed-open exhaust pipes could heat the nearby fuel tank to the point of exploding, if driven long enough.
    Brian 10s

  • #2
    Hmm . . .

    Not a new problem, but I doubt thieves are breaking down the convertors to extract precious metal. I suspect it's the ol' chop-shop deal, and convertors are sold intact to shady operators to fix cars with bad convertors. Another target is air bags. Kind of tricky to remove without blowing them up, but thieves can figure it out and make tons of $$$ selling air bag units to body shops that don't ask questions.
    carpetbagger

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    • #3
      Not to make light of this but I just don't see thief's going around through local neighborhoods rolling under parked SUV's and cutting out catalytic converters.

      Talk about a dumb crime.
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      • #4
        This happened to my sister in Madison Wi. She works for the DNR and had her car parked in one of their lots. Went on a 2 day trip with a DNR vehicle, came back to a Honda without a catalytic converter. It was sawzalled out. $300.00 to replace it.

        Dan



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        • #5
          This has been a recent problem in Canada too. Police say it is the ''flavour'' of the month. Many hits have been at new car dealerships. Guess the criminals don't want to get their hands dirty.
          Dealerships are now removing the cats and storing them while the new cars sit on the lot.
          Randy Rapedius

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          • #6
            I wouldn't put it past anyone to steal anything nowadays. The big thing around our part of the country is the theft of Air Conditioning Window Units. The thieves are taking them out of the houses or businesses and ripping out all the copper from them, as copper prices are shooting up like all precious metals are.

            Chris Johnson

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            • #7
              A very easy fix

              would be for our EPA to use factual statistics on pollution materials entering the air rather than the very heavily jaded criteria used to calculate such stats currently used.

              The result of proper reporting of such materials would eliminate the need for a converter which could be passed along in the form of a lower sale price for new vehicles.

              A secondary easy fix would be to order a Ford Model T coil from your local Warchosky's cataloge. Affix it to the car with one lead left open, and whoever touches the metal body completes the circuit and gets zapped. Use a remote like what is on your car alarm to turn it off, or on. I had them put on all of our maintenance trailers and we have not had one single break in since they were installed.
              Bill Schwab
              Miss KTDoodle #62C
              -Naturescape encinitas landscape company

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              • #8
                [QUOTE=Skoontz;97497]would be for our EPA to use factual statistics on pollution materials entering the air rather than the very heavily jaded criteria used to calculate such stats currently used.

                The result of proper reporting of such materials would eliminate the need for a converter which could be passed along in the form of a lower sale price for new vehicles. "

                lol its funny you mention that when i lived in Az. i barely passed emisions 1 year. My cat. converter pluged clear up before the next test. i replaced it with a temporary test pipe. sat at emishions worried. i passed easily , way cleaner than before.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Admin View Post
                  Not to make light of this but I just don't see thief's going around through local neighborhoods rolling under parked SUV's and cutting out catalytic converters.

                  Talk about a dumb crime.
                  Dan, I work less than 5 miles from the Comcast yard in Gambrills mentioned in Brian's post.

                  It happened there twice - and they have a fenced yard. It's happened to the local Lexus dealer, among others. It happens all over AA county daily. People in Annapolis parked their cars, went to work, came out to a vehicle that absolutely ROARED. Someone had cut out their cat while they were at work.

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                  • #10
                    Enough Abuse

                    Now I'm no cat lover but please!!!! After reading "The Coffee Guy" discuss so casually how he found his cat plugging his exhaust system then replaced it with a "piece of pipe"These are pets people!And if that didn't take the cake then "Leeann" (if in fact this is your real name) can't resist to further encourage "copy-cat" abusers by describing how some heartbroken feline fancier was the hapless victim of some maniac who "cut out my cat" I don't think HydroRacer is the kind of forum for you sicko's to be exploiting !
                    That's just my opinion
                    I could be wrong ?
                    chopperdoctor.

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                    • #11
                      that is strange . . .

                      Originally posted by roperz111 View Post
                      I wouldn't put it past anyone to steal anything nowadays. The big thing around our part of the country is the theft of Air Conditioning Window Units. The thieves are taking them out of the houses or businesses and ripping out all the copper from them, as copper prices are shooting up like all precious metals are.

                      Chris Johnson
                      Almost every window shaker A/C I've seen uses an aluminum heat exchanger. Again, methinks the thieves are street selling the A/Cs to the less fortunate folks who are sweating and don't ask origin of product questions.
                      carpetbagger

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                      • #12
                        On the news coming in to work this morning... a guy in Toronto last night broke into a power station and tried to steal a live transformer... fried himself. I dunno if it's made of copper, but they said that's what he was after. power out to 700 homes. They said copper is over $3 a pound here.
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                        • #13
                          Sweet !!!

                          Originally posted by Skoontz View Post
                          A secondary easy fix would be to order a Ford Model T coil from your local Warchosky's cataloge. Affix it to the car with one lead left open, and whoever touches the metal body completes the circuit and gets zapped. Use a remote like what is on your car alarm to turn it off, or on. I had them put on all of our maintenance trailers and we have not had one single break in since they were installed.
                          Now that is the solution I like. Zap for tap. Kind of like riging the light switch to the metal bench for the neighbor that is always coming over to see what you are building in the shop. D Merc mags rigged to the bench work well too. Talk about the hot seat.
                          Dave Mason
                          Just A Boat Racer

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                          • #14
                            Here in my area Meth Heads are stealing copper wire from Farm irrigation pumps some were caught and now sit in jail. Yuba and Sutter counties just passed a law that metal recyclers must collect I.D.'s of those selling metals to scrap dealers and then there is a 3 day waiting period involved to receive payment. Really slowed down the thefts. However, The Meth Heads just go somewhere else.
                            bill b

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                            • #15
                              I have not heard about the Catalytic converter thefts. But at a place I worked a couple of years ago the thieves got all the air conditioning compressors off the roof. Thousands of dollars of damage for a few hundred worth of copper.

                              Right now in Saint Louis it is being proposed to put stricter regulation on scrap dealers, but the dealers are fighting it. I think the dealers are just as crooked as the thieves.



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