CSR weight.

[xcsp700]

I agree with Brad I just cant seem two get under 200

[jtower3941]

Weight

What weight did you wrestle? How many hours did you spend making weight. I was 150lb now 220lb and try each year to lose some. Dont want to spend time in front of stove with rubber suit on to lose 10lb to make weight. Sorry but leave CSR alone. Maybe we can wrestle for it. LOL

Lets go boat racing with JABCD. Saterday is run classes that have at least 3 or more boats and those that need elimination heats. Run on Sunday all classes that have 5 or more, and combine those Sat. 3 boat class to make larger fields and you dont lose the money. If you dont want to combine on Sun. Get on the phone with your fellow racers and say next week lets get off your butt and show up or find out that you are 1 or 3 in regions around you. Let not eliminate any engines. Just find a place for all the old men and equipment to race. When they are finishing 7th in a 5 boat heat, or cant find parts, this is when they will buy new. But today money is an issue. Stories of spending $$$ and fine out next yr. its not legal or not able to run in your class.
Let the race committee handle Sunday schedule and combined classes or eliminated classes.

[GuyWithTheCoolBoat]

im 165 without any of my kevlar... and my larger heavier marathon boat still need 20 lbs of lead this year at top o

[dsprint2000]

CSR15 - you trouble maker. We're right at weight as long as you don't eat a donut before racing!!!!!! LOL>....... Otherwise - I break out the holesaw for lightening help.....

Or......did you drop a few pounds and have not told me and now we have to put that weight in?

Call you later....

crew chief....out

[reed28n]

CSR Weight

This weight should be lowered to attract the restrictr Yamato 25SSR drivers back to CSR.

The CSR ride has enough punch to over come a the driver that is a few pounds over weight.

I will race it at whatever weight you propose.......but I believ for the good of the sport you could eventually elimante the restricted yamatos in the 25SSR class.

[ZUL8TR]

CSR and CSH Weight

I've looked back through my old rule books and the weight for CSR was 475 as far back as I have books which is 1988. Jack

My 1974 thru 1978 insp manuals have

CSR = 470
CSH = 435

As John R stated earlier the kevlar requirement added 5 lbs

[DiGia54D]

It was I believe It was changed for 88 or 89 ( Nationals in Lawrencville, PA )... I can remember Cal Manley Joking with (the Great) Bud Pinto that they changed the weight just for him and he won the nationals

[pearson95m]

How about (under Dean's proposal) we increase CSR weight to 490 or so, and throw the current 25SSR class into C. Then we would have a boat for 200+ drivers like myself and a boat for all you skinny bastards with equal speeds. I believe the 25SSR weight is like 430 with the 9/16 restriction. I think if you look at the speeds in both classes you find they are VERY close.

[Kev43V]

I didn't know you guys were interested. Under the proposed ideas, DIII could race it with a restrictor and the lower weight as a 25. I think I use about 5lbs of balancing lead in my CSR and it puts me right at 480. As far as CSH, I am about 15-20lbs over with a brand new boat. I don't think I can afford to have Sam build it out of carbon fiber.

Right now the 160 to 180 pounders have the B/20 classes to race in. I know the 200+lbs guys need an affordable class or two without getting pushed into an expensive and fast D. It's much easier to add a few pounds of lead than it is to lop off a leg to make weight. This reminds me, I need to get my arse out and run a few miles.

our hardware store guy said his weight only went down 5 lb when they took his leg off above the knee... but then he had skinny chicken legs

[krazy karl]

My marathon boat was built by Darrell for himself. To make legal weight I have to add 37 pounds as I only weigh 160lbs. For you big guys I say we leave CSR weight alone but how about we drop the weight restriction totally on CMR just like DMR?
kk

[CSR15]

I was just curious how the number 475 was picked, I don't think it should be changed. As a light driver I built my(Sornsen Williams Blackwell CSR) heavy so I wouldn't have to add allot of weight.

Dave it's not donuts, It's Tillamook ice cream.

[B Walker]

Please read the following with a sense of humor:

I have heard the 470 weight for CU was proposed by the commisioners of regions 6 and 7 in an attempt to slow down Don Pontius, the first king of the C's.

In classic quid pro quo they offered to allow Champion Hot Rod in A stock.

I think that was the national meeting of 1973

BW

[Wild Bill 96D]

I am too fat to run in ASR. But I am not trying to make them put lead in, so I can. But some fatter guys are making me put lead in my CSR so they can run in CSR. Why don't you pigs run DSR, they need more drivers.

[reed28n]

CSR and Inspection

How about (under Dean's proposal) we increase CSR weight to 490 or so, and throw the current 25SSR class into C. Then we would have a boat for 200+ drivers like myself and a boat for all you skinny bastards with equal speeds. I believe the 25SSR weight is like 430 with the 9/16 restriction. I think if you look at the speeds in both classes you find they are VERY close.

Why do we want two different rigs two different inspection parameters. Then you need a parity committee...... This discussion is all for not.

The notion of not having multiple classes to run with the exact same equipment scares the hell of out of people.

We cannot propose anything that would cause one single current racer to consider quitting. Even if it would advance the credibility of stock outboard racing and even if we could somehow show that we would attract more racers. The voice of the one disgruntled racer (that is probably looking for an excuse to quit anyway) will tug on the heart strings of APBA and we will be having this exact same debate year after year........

Everyone wants to talk about consolidating classes. The goal should be consolidating racers.

So why not propose that if we remove a motor from a class that you have participated in for the last three years with that eliminated motor......APBA will trade your motor in for the new National motor of choice.

That would make for an interesting twist on a plan to go forward and not leave anyone behind. You just have to prove that you raced in more than one Region and that you raced in more than say 8 races per year. That would prove that you are a National racer. Otherwise you can run what ever you have at your local races for no national points and keep what you have.

[Kev43V]

Why do we want two different rigs two different inspection parameters. Then you need a parity committee...... This discussion is all for not.

The notion of not having multiple classes to run with the exact same equipment scares the hell of out of people.

We cannot propose anything that would cause one single current racer to consider quitting. Even if it would advance the credibility of stock outboard racing and even if we could somehow show that we would attract more racers. The voice of the one disgruntled racer (that is probably looking for an excuse to quit anyway) will tug on the heart strings of APBA and we will be having this exact same debate year after year........

Everyone wants to talk about consolidating classes. The goal should be consolidating racers.

So why not propose that if we remove a motor from a class that you have participated in for the last three years with that eliminated motor......APBA will trade your motor in for the new National motor of choice.

That would make for an interesting twist on a plan to go forward and not leave anyone behind. You just have to prove that you raced in more than one Region and that you raced in more than say 8 races per year. That would prove that you are a National racer. Otherwise you can run what ever you have at your local races for no national points and keep what you have.

Does that mean some should trade in a brand new motor for one 30 years old?
(context a diff. thread) LOL